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Wiring up lots of Sony appliances

Colin1806 — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 16:55:32 GMT

Can someone with knowlegde on these things PLEASE help me!

I have a Sony PlayStation 4pro, a Sony Bravia KD65XD8599BU (65" TV) a bdvn7200wb (5.1 surround sound/ blu ray player) and want to get a UBP-X800 (Sony uhd bluesy player), and also have sky Q.

here are my issues.

ps4 pro and sky Q are 10bit colour, uhd so need to be connected to the TV directly by hdmi

the optical cable is A not the best sound and B when I go directly from TV to surround sound using optical it causes a tiny delay of sound from the sky (I can't get it to match despite there being options on the sky) that causes out of synchs lips and sound Which I can't have obviously so I currently have different optical cables that I have to keep swapping in the back of my surround sound!

to top it off when I get the Sony uhd blu ray player it doesn't even have an optical output port so I have no idea how I will get t to work! Ideally I'd like to not have to swap anything, or split anything as high quality visual and sound is the end goal!

Re: Wiring up lots of Sony appliances

SonyCPH — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 20:08:35 GMT

Connect everything to TV, make sure that the sorround is connected to ARC, and forget about optical

Re: Wiring up lots of Sony appliances

Anonymous — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 20:09:11 GMT

Hi there

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TV : KD-65XD8599

Devices:
BDV-N7200WB
PS4 Pro
UBP-X800 (Future)
Sky Q (Future)

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*Note: All 4 of your TV's HDMI ports support : Up to 18Gbps(for HDMI 1/2/3/4)

Connect it up as follows:
BDV-N7200WB (HDMI-IN ARC) > KD-65XD8599 (HDMI4-ARC)
PS4 Pro (HDMI) > KD-65XD8599 (HDMI 2,3 or 4)
UBP-X800 (HDMI) > KD-65XD8599 (HDMI 2,3 or 4)
Sky Q Silver (HDMI) > KD-65XD8599 (HDMI 2,3 or 4)

- Ensure that you purchase Hi-Speed HDMI cables capable of 18Gbps speeds (for 4K HDR devices)
- Enable HDMI Enhanced in the HDMI settings on the TV for the 4K HDR Devices

You should no longer be using the optical cable, for this setup it is not needed.

Cheers

Re: Wiring up lots of Sony appliances

Colin1806 — Fri, 30 Jun 2017 05:15:00 GMT

Thank you, and then what setting does the surround go on to play the sound that's being displayed?! Thanks again!

Re: Wiring up lots of Sony appliances

Jecht_Sin — Fri, 30 Jun 2017 08:54:59 GMT

Quinnicus wrote:

*Note: All 4 of your TV's HDMI ports support : Up to 18Gbps(for HDMI 1/2/3/4)

PS4 Pro (HDMI) > KD-65XD8599 (HDMI 2,3 or 4)

? I am quite sure only ports HDMI 2 & 3 are good for the PS4 Pro (UHD+HDR). For sure in the XD80, which is even more recent (ATV2 instead of ATV1) if I remember correctly. So, using ARC (HDMI 2), only one port (HDMI3) is left available for UHD+HDR inputs. So its written in the HDMI ports description on the back of my tv, at least.

Re: Wiring up lots of Sony appliances

Colin1806 — Fri, 30 Jun 2017 10:12:31 GMT

Thank you, although I am quite sure all 4 are full UHD/ HDR 2.2 compatible. Unfortunately though one of them is direct into the back so I need an angled cable!

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Re: Wiring up lots of Sony appliances

Anonymous — Fri, 30 Jun 2017 10:19:05 GMT

@Jecht_Sin wrote:

@Quinnicus wrote:

*Note: All 4 of your TV's HDMI ports support : Up to 18Gbps(for HDMI 1/2/3/4)

PS4 Pro (HDMI) > KD-65XD8599 (HDMI 2,3 or 4)

? I am quite sure only ports HDMI 2 & 3 are good for the PS4 Pro (UHD+HDR). For sure in the XD80, which is even more recent (ATV2 instead of ATV1) if I remember correctly. So, using ARC (HDMI 2), only one port (HDMI3) is left available for UHD+HDR inputs. So its written in the HDMI ports description on the back of my tv, at least.

@Jecht_Sin

The XD85 series is a different beast to the XD80. I have an XD85 too. The info I have is that all 4 HDMI port are HDCP 2.2 compliant and support 18Gbps (4K HDR).

Cheers

Re: Wiring up lots of Sony appliances

Colin1806 — Fri, 30 Jun 2017 10:25:31 GMT

Thank you, I will wire all this up the way I need to tonight leaving the awkward one that comes out backwards (into a wall!) free until I get an angled hdmi 2.2 lead with the uhd blu ray player, but I still don't know what source to set my surround sound on to make it play whatever is on screen as ARC isn't an option (the appliance does support it though)

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Re: Wiring up lots of Sony appliances

Anonymous — Fri, 30 Jun 2017 11:28:25 GMT

HI @Colin1806

I am curious on why ARC isnt an option considering your equipment supports it? So im a little

Cheers

Re: Wiring up lots of Sony appliances

Jecht_Sin — Fri, 30 Jun 2017 11:33:07 GMT

@Anonymous oh, ok. Because it was my understanding all 4k/HDR Bravia tvs had the same set of HDMI ports, even the A1 Oled. So I remembered from the reviews I have read. I must have got it very wrong, then.

Re: Wiring up lots of Sony appliances

Anonymous — Fri, 30 Jun 2017 11:45:24 GMT

@Jecht_Sin wrote:

@Anonymous oh, ok. Because it was my understanding all 4k/HDR Bravia tvs had the same set of HDMI ports, even the A1 Oled. So I remembered from the reviews I have read. I must have got it very wrong, then.

@Jecht_Sin

You might be wrong - or my spreadsheet is wrong. But I also checked the manual this morning and there is nothing in the XD85 series manual that states only use certain HDMI ports.

Edit - In comparison to the XD80 Series:

Re: Wiring up lots of Sony appliances

Anonymous — Fri, 30 Jun 2017 11:41:56 GMT

HI @Colin1806

Sorry I missed your other question about what source to put the audio system.

If using ARC, then it will do it automatically
If using Optical then set the source to "TV"

Cheers

Re: Wiring up lots of Sony appliances

Jecht_Sin — Fri, 30 Jun 2017 12:28:18 GMT

No, no, don't worry, I trust you!

Before posting I have been looking for those specs sheets indeed, in the Sony sites, and there was only the info about HDCP 2.2. So I went by memory. Actually now I am checking the reviews of rtings.com. And I was right about one thing: according to rtings the A1 Oled only has 2 18Gbps HDMI ports (2 & 3), like with the XD80. In the X850D's review instead they don;t specify ports HDMI 2 and 3. And the port for ARC is HDMI 4 indeed (instead of HDMI 3 in the XD80 and A1 Oled). This is about the A1 Oled in rtings (link😞

Ok, that explains how I have got confused, then. But it doesn't explain why Sony downgraded the 2 HDMI ports in the most recent televisions! Why? What changed?

Re: Wiring up lots of Sony appliances

Anonymous — Fri, 30 Jun 2017 12:34:34 GMT

Thats the thing I do not get. Why would Sony only have 2x 18Gbps HDMI ports on the A1 OLED - for such a high-end TV it is basically unforgivable.

See recent thread:

https://community.sony.co.uk/t5/android-tv/sky-q-uhd-on-kd-65a1/m-p/2346864

I do not know why they would do such a thing....

Re: Wiring up lots of Sony appliances

Jecht_Sin — Sun, 02 Jul 2017 10:06:29 GMT

You know, it's like with the Sony's soundbars. I am not really sure the 2017 soundbars are actually better than the ones from 2016. One would expect that the new (tv or audio) models are always a superset of the old ones. Apart from losing old technology, like the SCART, obviously. Instead they get downgraded.

The info from the Sony's site doesn't help either. When I checked before buying the tv some specs were contradictory between the same model with different number (8005 vs 8099 for example) or between the UK and Italian site. Same for the soundbars. I check the Sony site it doesn't mention DTS-HD, just DTS, I check the description in some internet shops and they say DTS-HD is there!