topic Re: Youview pause on Bravia in Android TV

Youview pause on Bravia

Twampy — Sun, 06 Nov 2016 15:54:55 GMT

Hi all,

I have a Sony Bravia 4k telly with built in youview, how do I get it to pause like a normal youview box.

Are there any updates in the pipeline that will let me do this?

Re: Youview pause on Bravia

Anonymous — Sun, 06 Nov 2016 19:01:03 GMT

Hi there

Pausing Live TV which is known as "Time Shift" is not available on Sony TVs that support YouView im afraid. Currently to use DVR features like recording TV shows, you must disable YouView as Sony/YouView have not implemented native recording features like a YouView box.

I believe Timeshift has been implemented in Android 6.0 (Marshmallow) but its in early stages and I do not think it will be implemented in YouView anyhow - See HERE.

In Android 7.0 (Nougat) - Google gets more serious on DVR features - but Sony has not stated yet whether 2015/2016 TVs will move to Android 7. See HERE for more info.

Cheers

Re: Youview pause on Bravia

Twampy — Sun, 06 Nov 2016 19:16:40 GMT

OK thank you.

Right I have a youview box I can pause on but I want to use my nice new Bravia remote to control it. is there a way to do that as I don't want to use 2 remotes.

Re: Youview pause on Bravia

royabrown — Sun, 06 Nov 2016 23:08:32 GMT

@Twampy wrote:
OK thank you.
Right I have a youview box I can pause on but I want to use my nice new Bravia remote to control it. is there a way to do that as I don't want to use 2 remotes.

No there isn't, I'm afraid, as the Sony remote is not a learning remote.

But you can program your YouView remote to work at least some functions on the Sony TV. See your printed youView Guide for details, as how you do this varies from YouView model to model, and you don't say which model you have.

Or you could buy a multi-device remote - Harmony do a nice range - and program that to operate the full gamut of functions on both devices.

Re: Youview pause on Bravia

Kuschelmonschter — Mon, 07 Nov 2016 08:15:35 GMT

I believe Timeshift has been implemented in Android 6.0 (Marshmallow) but its in early stages and I do not think it will be implemented in YouView anyhow

I am afraid that this change does not affect Sony at all. Sony does not use the original Google Live Channels app but instead decided to put its own TV functionality inside, probably having ported it over from older models. Sony now maintains its own fork of the app, most probably not even implementing the APIs defined by Google for timeshift/PVR/...

Re: Youview pause on Bravia

Anonymous — Mon, 07 Nov 2016 23:15:30 GMT

Thanks for that info @Kuschelmonschter - Sony is aware that this is a requested feature anyhow, hopefully this can be implemented at some point in the future.

Re: Youview pause on Bravia

samwilliam925 — Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:45:53 GMT

I don't understand why this feature isn't available, i thought i'd bought a modern smart TV, apparently i haven't.

Re: Youview pause on Bravia

copicke45 — Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:18:14 GMT

The only purpose of the Youview app on Sony Android TVs is to integrate the UK catch-up players with the programme guide. Other than that it is useless - it hasn't even been updated to the new Youview interface design.

If you want record & replay facilities you have to disable the app & attach a HDD to the USB port, and record via the (standard) Freeview programme guide..... or attach a real Youview box.

Re: Youview pause on Bravia

royabrown — Mon, 30 Oct 2017 13:02:06 GMT

@samwilliam925

What other modern smart TVs do you think let you pause live TV?

Re: Youview pause on Bravia

Kuschelmonschter — Mon, 30 Oct 2017 13:18:03 GMT

royabrown schrieb:
@samwilliam925

What other modern smart TVs do you think let you pause live TV?

Like that?

Re: YouView pause on Bravia

royabrown — Tue, 31 Oct 2017 09:26:19 GMT

From the manual:-

Pause TV

What You Need

You can pause a digital TV broadcast and resume watching it a bit later.

To pause a TV programme you need…
• a connected USB Hard Drive formatted on this TV
.....

And Lollipop? Really?

Re: YouView pause on Bravia

Kuschelmonschter — Tue, 31 Oct 2017 09:43:06 GMT

What do you want to tell us? Samsung, LG, Philips/TPVision... they all support timeshifting.

And yes, Philips already supported it on Lollipop. Android added Timeshift APIs as of Marshmallow, which are used in the Google Live Channels app. Philips does not use the Live Channels app though but has their own TV integration. So they don't mind about Google APIs in that regard as they implemented the stuff on their own.

Re: YouView pause on Bravia

Jamesc5 — Wed, 21 Mar 2018 10:22:23 GMT

I appreciate this is an old thread from 2016, but it's now 2018 and I still need a £40 youview box under my £1000 android smart tv (2017 model) in order to use timeshift.

Unfortunatly i have buyers remorse after buying my sony android tv and would recommend anyone wanting smart features such as apps and pvr / timeshift to buy a cheap smart pvr box or dongle and the best screen you can afford rather than an expensive tv with android built in . Built in android tv is stripped down and offers very little more than any other smart tv system.

Timeshift would be a killer feature that set android tv apart from the rest, the core capability is built into android, particularly Google's own live channels app, but google and Sony have never fully implemented it, which is a real shame for Sony's millions of android tv users.

I wanted less remotes, less wires and less devices under my tv, and mistakenly thought android tv would deliver this.

Re: YouView pause on Bravia

PaulJetFighter — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 08:11:26 GMT

Have to agree with Jamesc5, I wanted less remotes, cables and the likes and previously having a Youview box and was told the tv had Youview also, I spent the extra money.

At no point in when I was choosing the tv was I told you cannot pause live tv in Youview mode. I would have re thought my choice if I had known.

Why cannot Sony and google just buy Youview so we can pause live tv.

Apparently it is to do with copyright or something.

After this escapade I will not trust RS in aiding me with a future purchase. Mis-sold and mis-informed.

I was going to throw ‘Not fit for purpose” at them as it does not do what it says.

Re: Youview pause on Bravia

stormyuk — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 08:39:19 GMT

I assume we wont be getting Android 7 on the 2016/2017 TVs?

Re: Youview pause on Bravia

Jamesc5 — Fri, 18 May 2018 20:58:53 GMT

My tv has been upgraded to android 7, most of the 2017 bravia are getting it from what I've read.

Incidently timeshift works well on Google's live channels app if using a HD homerun network tuner, and the tv guide works really well.

Unfortunately there's no guide data and no timeshift if you use the inbuilt tuner in live channels as the source.

surely this is relatively simple to resolve as the live channels app has already got all the pvr functionality built in? All sony or google have to do is pass guide data to the live channels app from the built in tuner, and tell the app to that the video soure is ok for timeshift, the app already does the rest. I'm no programmer but it cant need that much new code ?

Re: Youview pause on Bravia

Kuschelmonschter — Sat, 19 May 2018 00:07:36 GMT

Check out my review. In order to support PVR and timeshifting of the Live Channels app, Sony would have to implement the respective underlying Google TIF APIs which is not a minor thing.

Re: Youview pause on Bravia

Jamesc5 — Sat, 19 May 2018 09:59:04 GMT

That's a really good write up, I cant understand why we get a picture in the live channels app from the built in tuners and can change channels, use pip etc, but we cant get guide data ?

Surely most of the work has already been done in getting the video stream into the live channels app?

Re: Youview pause on Bravia

Kuschelmonschter — Sat, 19 May 2018 11:01:43 GMT

You should have read my review more carefully. Sony's DTV implementation is an early fork of Google's Live Channels. Basic parts are therefore compatible with the TIF. But because Live Channels was missing functionality back in Lollipop, Sony went their own way. That was when the 2 separated and Sony does not support later TIF APIs for timeshifting and PVR.